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Zhipu: A Long-Term Owner's Perspective

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Zhipu (2513.HK) is China's largest independent large-model company, standing on two legs: on-premise deployment plus cloud MaaS. Rating: Avoid — HK$1,040 is paying for an extremely optimistic future ten years out.

Revenue and cash-flow curves point in opposite directions. 2025 revenue was RMB 724 million, up 132%, ranking first with a 6.6% share, but R&D poured in RMB 4.1 billion, the net loss was RMB 4.7 billion, operating cash flow deteriorated from -RMB 68 million to -RMB 2.245 billion over three years, and receivables turnover dragged from 23 days to 112 days. Cloud gross margin recovering from 3.4% to 18.9% counts as improvement, but is still a notch below excellent software companies. P/S of 554x versus SenseTime's mere 13.6x and 4Paradigm's 3-4x: this is not an excellent-company premium but a prepaid price for a distant winner-take-all. A three-tier DCF yields HK$5-10 / 40-70 / 250-350, with the current price about three times the upper edge of the optimistic tier.

The biggest risk is not the company failing but the valuation paradigm switching from "distant platform king" back to "cash-burning AI service provider," which, compounded by cash flow that fails to turn positive, makes a 70%-90% permanent drawdown no black swan. The threshold to re-study is HK$40-80 with operating cash flow clearly turning positive; otherwise, watch without acting.

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China's largest independent large-model company, with 2025 revenue up ~132% to RMB 724 million; yet R&D of RMB 4.1 billion, a net loss of RMB 4.7 billion, and a Reuters price-to-sales ratio of ~554x mean HK$1,040 is paying for an extremely distant, extremely optimistic future with no evidence of free cash flow. Rating: Avoid.

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Prices in the article are as of publication; see the valuation band above for the live price.

Conclusion First

Investment rating: Avoid.

Core judgment: Zhipu is a company I can broadly understand, but one that currently does not meet the Buffett-style "good business + good price" standard. It sits on a high-growth track, and its technical position and commercialization progress are both respectable: in its prospectus the company calls itself China's largest independent large-model company by revenue and China's second-largest general-purpose large-model developer by revenue. In 2025 revenue rose to RMB 724 million, up about 132% year-on-year. But over the same period, 2025 R&D expenses were about RMB 4.1 billion and the net loss was about RMB 4.718 billion, and in the public materials I can directly verify, sustained, stable, distributable free cash flow still has not appeared. More critically, at the Reuters delayed quote of May 17, 2026, the share price was about HK$1,040 and the market cap about HK$463.68 billion, with Reuters showing a price-to-sales ratio of about 554.55x; this is not paying for current cash flow but for an extremely distant, extremely optimistic future.

Is there a margin of safety at the current price: No.

Suitable investor type: Closer to a high-risk growth / venture-capital-style investor, and not suited to the ordinary long-term value investor who puts "permanent loss of capital" first. Measured against "buying a business that will steadily produce cash over the next 10 years," I think it is currently better suited to being watched rather than allocated to.

Biggest uncertainties: First, whether the business model can produce positive unit economics; second, whether the technical lead can convert into a durable moat; third, whether the current valuation has already priced in most of the success scenarios of the next decade and beyond. Of these three, the third is my clearest negative.

Note on method: Below I explicitly distinguish four types of content: Facts come from the company's prospectus, 2025 results announcement, the company's official results charts, HKEX filings, Reuters, and official regulatory documents; Assumptions are used mainly for valuation; Inferences are logical extensions built on facts; and Opinions are the final investment judgment. You did not fill in "objective / risk appetite," so below I default to the standard of long-term value investing that is highly sensitive to permanent loss.

Understanding the Business

How does this company make money? On the facts, Zhipu was founded in 2019, and its main business is general-purpose large-model services, with a business model split into two parts: on-premise deployment and cloud deployment. The prospectus states that the company provides model services to enterprises and the public sector through its MaaS platform, and also serves individual end users and developers; as of June 30, 2025, the company's models had empowered more than 8,000 institutional clients, and as of the latest practicable date covered about 80 million devices. In 2025, total revenue was RMB 724.3 million, of which on-premise deployment revenue was about RMB 534 million, or 73.7%, and cloud deployment revenue was about RMB 190.4 million, or 26.3%.

Customers, pricing, and revenue predictability. On-premise deployment is more project- or solution-based, usually tied to the client's infrastructure, data, and deployment scenario, with revenue recognition often linked to milestones and acceptance; cloud deployment is more like API/Agent usage-based billing, in theory closer to recurring revenue. The problem is that so far, Zhipu's overall revenue still does not show the "high repeat purchase + high gross margin + high cash-flow predictability" of a traditionally excellent software company. The evidence: the company's cloud deployment gross margin was once only 3.4% in 2024, rebounding to 18.9% in 2025; this shows that although cloud revenue is more "subscription-like," the price war and inference costs are still heavy. Meanwhile, days sales outstanding lengthened from 23 days in 2022 and 21 days in 2023 to 58 days in 2024 and 112 days in the first half of 2025, which also weakens the cash quality of revenue.

Cost structure and dependencies. On the facts, Zhipu's heaviest costs are not manufacturing but R&D, compute, personnel, marketing, and depreciation. The company's R&D expense was RMB 2.195 billion in 2024, rising further to about RMB 4.1 billion in 2025; the prospectus also discloses that one core reason for the sharp rise in 2024 R&D was an increase of about RMB 1.241 billion in compute service fees paid to third-party compute providers. In other words, this business is neither asset-light nor cheap, and it is highly dependent on an external compute ecosystem. The company states clearly in its prospectus that it has no plans to build its own AI data centers, instead procuring compute resources from cloud service providers within China.

Would I hold this business if the stock market were closed for five years? My opinion: at today's price, no. The reason is not that I cannot understand "AI large-model services," but that I have not yet seen this company prove commercially that it can pass through five years of competition, five years of technical iteration, and five years of capex pressure to become a business-ownership asset that steadily generates free cash flow. It looks more like a "candidate platform" still rapidly experimenting, needing continuous financing and continuous competitive wins, than a "good business" that has already established a mature economic model.

Business understandability score: 3/5. The product form is not complex, and the revenue sources are comprehensible; but the long-term economics, customer stickiness, and the mechanism for forming distributable cash flow are still not transparent enough.

Industry & Competition

Industry stage and demand. On the facts, China's AI market grew from RMB 93.7 billion in 2022 to RMB 160.7 billion in 2024, and Frost & Sullivan expects it to reach RMB 993 billion by 2030; within that, China's large-model market is expected to reach RMB 101.1 billion by 2030, a CAGR of about 63.5% from 2024 to 2030. This shows the field itself is a classic high-growth early-stage industry, and long-term demand is not the problem. The problem is that high growth does not equal high profit, and high demand does not equal high return.

Industry structure. Citing Frost & Sullivan data in its prospectus, Zhipu says that by 2024 revenue it is China's largest independent large-model company and China's second-largest general-purpose large-model company, with a market share of about 6.6%. This shows it is not a marginal player but a front-rank one. The prospectus also shows the revenue-share gap among the top five is not large: about 9.4% for the leader, about 6.6% for Zhipu, and about 6.4%, 6.1%, and 4.7% for the next few. This means the profit pool has not yet become highly concentrated, but is still in a stage of multiple strong players coexisting and competing fast on price and performance.

Who are the real strong rivals? My inference: Zhipu's "comparable companies" in the capital markets may be SenseTime, 4Paradigm, and MiniMax; but in industrial reality, the truly hardest opponents are the big-platform players that own cloud, traffic, ecosystem, and customer relationships, along with strong model providers like DeepSeek that disrupt industry pricing with low price and high performance. Reuters reporting on Baidu has already shown that, facing DeepSeek's competitive pressure in 2025, Baidu had to keep doubling down on AI cloud, model open-sourcing, and free-of-charge strategies; this in turn proves how intense the competition is, and shows Zhipu will find it hard to build consumer-goods-like pricing power in the short term.

Is this ultimately a good industry or a bad one? My opinion: this is an industry with very good demand and very brutal competition. It is not "an excellent company in a bad industry," but it is also far from "an easy winner in a good industry." From an owner's perspective, the most valuable thing is not the "halo of the track" but who is finally left standing and who can turn revenue into free cash flow. Today that question has no answer.

Industry attractiveness score: 3/5. Growth is very high, but rapid technical substitution, heavy capital consumption, and many regulatory and geopolitical variables significantly discount the industry's attractiveness.

Moat & Management

Moat assessment. Breaking it down against ten common moat types, my conclusion is: Zhipu has a technical and first-mover advantage, but its moat has not yet been "cemented" into a durable high-return barrier. On brand, the company does have a degree of industry recognition: it launched the GLM framework in 2021 and in 2022 open-sourced China's first ten-billion-parameter-scale model, GLM-130B; as of 2025 the company discloses that its API/Agent platform covers 218 countries and regions, that deep users of its services include 9 of the top 10 internet giants, and that it has 240,000 paying Coding Plan developers and 400,000 paying Claw Plan and product users. All of this shows it is not a model company that "nobody uses."

But from a value-investing angle, what really determines a moat is switching costs, pricing power, cost advantage, distribution advantage, and difficulty of replication. On these dimensions, Zhipu is currently not very strong. On switching costs, once an enterprise has done deep API integration, on-premise deployment, and industry customization, migration costs do rise; but this barrier is far less solid than ERP, databases, or payment networks. On cost advantage, the company's 2025 results chart claims "domestic hardware deployment cuts cost by 50% with no loss of performance," a positive signal, but the financials have not yet proven it has translated into a stable industry-leading margin. On pricing power, the company's 83% API price increase in Q1 2026 is a highlight, yet the overall cloud gross margin is still only 18.9%, so I prefer to see it as a bargaining improvement from a local product upgrade rather than solid pricing power.

Is the moat widening, stable, or narrowing? My view leans cautious: the technical moat is amid rapid iteration, while the commercial moat has not yet formed in step. Open-source models, low-cost inference, and domestic-chip solutions are all advancing in the industry, and this will commoditize "pure model-capability leadership" faster. If Zhipu wants to widen its moat, it must prove two things: first, that the Agent/MaaS platform can form a scale network; second, that platform revenue's gross margin and cash flow can improve markedly with scale. For now, both are still in progress.

Management and shareholder alignment. On the facts, Zhipu is a classic founder-team-led company. The prospectus shows that Liu Debing, Tang Jie, Li Juanzi, Xu Bin, Zhang Peng, and entities controlled by Liu Debing such as Beijing Lianpai, Huihui, and Zhideng form a concert-party controlling-shareholder group; after the IPO (calculated on the unexercised over-allotment), Liu Debing directly holds about 8.97%, Beijing Lianpai about 7.73%, Zhideng about 6.18%, and Tang Jie about 6.10%, with the other founders holding additional direct or platform stakes. Employee holding platforms total about 15.15%. This shows the company is not a structure where "professional managers pocket shareholder capital empty-handed"; both founders and employees are bound into the equity with real money.

Is management trustworthy, and is capital allocation rational? I give a neutral-to-conservative assessment. On the positive side: in the prospectus the company disclosed fairly fully the U.S. Entity List, the EAR, compute dependence, equity incentives, losses, and the no-dividend policy; this shows it does not shy away from core risks. On the negative side: so far, capital allocation is hard to call "excellent." The company pays no dividend and states clearly it will not pay cash dividends for the foreseeable future; net IPO proceeds were about HK$4.1734 billion, of which 70% goes to general large-model R&D, 10% to MaaS platform optimization, 10% to ecosystem/strategic investment, and 10% to working capital, which is unsurprising for a frontier AI company but also means shareholders in the short term are still buying "the right to continued reinvestment" rather than "the right to cash-flow distribution." More notable: after listing, the company announced the acquisition of a target company that mainly holds office property and has been loss-making for the past two years, for a total consideration of up to about RMB 360.52 million, explicitly not using IPO proceeds but paying with internal resources and bank financing; management's stated rationale was to meet office operating needs and optimize asset structure. This deal is not necessarily wrong, but it is clearly not the kind of capital-allocation move that immediately strengthens the AI moat.

Management and capital allocation score: 3/5. Founder shareholding and a long-term orientation are pluses; but large-scale losses, equity-incentive dilution, and the post-IPO non-core asset acquisition keep me from scoring higher for now.

Financial Quality

First, the most important sentence: Zhipu's financial statements contain both real operating pressure and considerable accounting noise. The accounting noise comes mainly from fair-value changes in financial instruments issued to investors and from equity incentives. The prospectus discloses that for 2022–2024 and the first half of 2025, in adjusting net loss the company adds back non-cash items such as "changes in the carrying value of financial instruments issued to investors" and "share-based payments"; this explains why the statutory loss is so large. But this does not mean operations are easy, because real cash flow is equally poor: the company's net operating cash flow for 2022, 2023, and 2024 was -RMB 68.2 million, -RMB 648 million, and -RMB 2.2449 billion respectively. So the loss cannot simply be treated as an accounting illusion.

Metric 2022 2023 2024 2025
Revenue RMB 57.4M RMB 124.5M RMB 312.4M RMB 724.3M
Gross margin 54.6% 64.6% 56.3% 41.0%
R&D expense RMB 84.4M RMB 528.9M RMB 2.1954B ~RMB 4.10B
Net loss RMB 143.7M RMB 788M RMB 2.958B RMB 4.7182B
Net operating cash flow -RMB 68.2M -RMB 648M -RMB 2.2449B Unknown
Cash & equivalents RMB 218.9M RMB 1.2492B RMB 2.2682B RMB 2.2591B
Trade & other receivables RMB 27.9M RMB 416.4M RMB 666.8M RMB 698.9M
Inventory & contract costs RMB 10.3M RMB 28.8M RMB 32.5M RMB 125.8M
Contract liabilities RMB 35.2M RMB 74.1M RMB 75.1M RMB 148.6M
Property & equipment RMB 41.4M RMB 787.5M RMB 866.4M RMB 655.8M
Bank borrowings 0 0 RMB 137.2M RMB 689.5M
Lease liabilities RMB 12.8M RMB 270.9M RMB 671.3M RMB 545.1M

The table figures are compiled from the prospectus and the 2025 results announcement; the full 2025 cash flow statement was not fully obtained from the directly verifiable sources this time, so operating cash flow and free cash flow are marked "Unknown."

How to read these numbers? First, revenue growth is astonishing. From 2022 to 2025, revenue grew from RMB 57.4 million to RMB 724.3 million, a three-year CAGR of about 133%; this shows commercialization is not absent but is indeed accelerating. Second, gross margin is not stable, declining through 2024 and 2025 after its 2023 peak, and has not yet formed a mature SaaS-style high margin. Third, the expense side far outruns the revenue side. In 2025 alone, R&D was more than five times revenue. This means the company is still in the "the more it grows, the more it must invest" stage, not the "the more it grows, the more cash it produces" stage.

Do profit and cash flow match? No, and they mismatch in a direction unfavorable to shareholders. Operating cash flow was persistently negative from 2022 to 2024 and deteriorated quickly; even looking only at the operating level, 2024 consumed RMB 2.2449 billion in cash. On capex, cash spent on property and equipment was about RMB 506.8 million in 2023 and still RMB 126 million in 2024. From 2022 to 2024, the company was not "poor profit but decent cash," but poor profit and even poorer cash.

Is the balance sheet actually sound? This question must be viewed on two levels: the pre-listing IFRS accounting basis and the economic substance. On the 2025 results-announcement basis, at end-2025 the company had a net-liabilities / net-asset deficit of about RMB 8.111 billion, because "financial instruments issued to investors" were booked as liabilities before listing and reached RMB 10.0732 billion at end-2025, dragging out a very ugly accounting balance sheet. This basis cannot be read like an ordinary industrial company, because the company already listed in January 2026 and these instruments will be reclassified; meanwhile, net IPO proceeds were about HK$4.1734 billion. So on economic substance, Zhipu does not face imminent debt collapse; but from an owner's perspective, this is certainly not a "robust, low-leverage, self-funding" balance sheet.

Are there signs of fraud or aggressive accounting? In the public materials I checked this time, I found no hard evidence directly pointing to financial fraud; the company also discloses that as of the prospectus date it had no off-balance-sheet arrangements. But three things must be tracked closely: first, the lengthening of days sales outstanding; second, the marked rise in contract fulfillment costs / inventory; third, the high share of non-cash items in the loss, which can easily lead investors to misjudge that "the loss is not that big." The conclusion is not "there is fraud" but "the statements are complex; guard against misreading."

Owner Earnings & Valuation

Owner Earnings: face reality first, then talk about the distant future. The core of Buffett-style Owner Earnings is not "adjusted profit" but the cash a business can truly distribute. For Zhipu, the most recent complete cash-flow year I can verify with high confidence is 2024. Taking 2024 as an example, net operating cash flow was about -RMB 2.2449 billion, and cash spent on property and equipment that year was about RMB 126 million. Even if I treat "maintenance capex" very loosely, assuming only half is maintenance and half is expansion, then on a conservative basis 2024 Owner Earnings is still around -RMB 2.3 billion; if all equipment spending is treated as necessary, Owner Earnings is worse. In other words, Zhipu's problem is not that Owner Earnings is "very low" but that it is still significantly negative.

What is the real distributable cash flow in 2025? I can only give a cautious answer: the directly verifiable sources this time are insufficient to precisely give 2025 Owner Earnings. The 2025 results announcement disclosed revenue, gross profit, R&D, administrative expenses, net loss, and the balance sheet, but I did not obtain a complete 2025 cash flow statement from the directly verifiable materials this time, so I will not fabricate a specific number. What can be confirmed is: 2025 R&D rose further to about RMB 4.1 billion while annual revenue was only RMB 724 million; this is the exact opposite of the profile of a company that has already built stable free cash flow.

Valuation method 1: discounted Owner Earnings. The following are my assumptions, not company guidance. To avoid mistaking the story for reality, I use 2025 revenue of RMB 724.3 million as the starting point, assume 10-year revenue CAGR of 35% / 45% / 60% respectively, year-10 Owner Earnings margin of 10% / 15% / 20%, discount rate of 12% / 11% / 10%, terminal growth of 3% / 4% / 4.5%, and only a relatively conservative net-cash adjustment. Under this model, the equity value comes out roughly at: conservative within RMB 2.2 billion, base within RMB 22.5 billion, optimistic within RMB 125 billion. Translated per share, these correspond roughly to the three orders of magnitude HK$5–10, HK$40–70, and HK$250–350. The current price of HK$1,040 is clearly above the upper edge of even my most optimistic scenario. The core here is not "precision to a few dollars" but to show that the current price requires the company to deliver extraordinary growth and profitability over the next decade. The base inputs come from the company's 2025 revenue and current market cap.

Valuation method 2: relative valuation. Reuters shows Zhipu's current price-to-sales ratio at about 554.55x. By comparison, SenseTime's market cap as of mid-May 2026 was about HK$78.523 billion with a P/S of about 13.56x; 4Paradigm's share price as of April–May 2026 was roughly HK$34–38 with a market cap of about HK$20.53 billion, while its 2024 revenue was about RMB 5.261 billion, for a rough P/S of about 3–4x. In other words, Zhipu's P/S is roughly more than 41 times SenseTime's and on the order of a hundred times 4Paradigm's. Even granting that Zhipu is a purer large-model play with a stronger story, this premium is no longer an "excellent-company premium" but more like a "prepaid price for a distant winner-take-all."

Valuation method 3: asset or liquidation value. Per the prospectus, at IPO the unaudited pro forma adjusted tangible net assets per share were about HK$17.85. Per the end-2025 results announcement, the company had about RMB 2.259 billion in cash and equivalents on its books, plus some time deposits and short-term investments, but because pre-listing investor financial instruments are measured as liabilities, the statements show a net-liability position. My conclusion: the asset method can only provide "a very low floor" for this company and can hardly support a high share price. It shows that "the share price is not held up by net assets" and is essentially entirely a bet on future earning power.

Margin-of-safety assessment. Very clear: none. This is a classic case of "possibly a good company, but very likely a bad price." If future growth falls short, margins fail to rise, and valuation multiples revert to the industry norm, then the drawdown may not be mere volatility but permanent loss of capital. If the 554x P/S is simply compressed toward 20x while revenue does not jump significantly, that could in theory cause over 90% of valuation damage; this is of course only an illustrative multiple compression, but it is enough to indicate the direction of risk. The range I give now: no ideal buy price for now; if forced to give one, only at HK$40–80 and when operating cash flow has clearly improved does it begin to have research significance. Above HK$250–350, I already treat it as a clearly overvalued zone; and HK$1,040 is extremely overdrawn on the future. Based on current evidence, I do not recommend any action other than waiting for a "better price."

Risks, Comparison & Final Conclusion

The most important risks and the counterargument. The most core competitive risk is not "Zhipu cannot build models," but that the stronger the models get, the harder they are to monetize. Technical-substitution risk comes from stronger open-source models, cheaper inference, and stronger platform ecosystems; regulatory risk comes from AI content compliance, data, export controls, and geopolitical restrictions; financial risk comes from continued high R&D and compute spending and potential refinancing and dilution; management risk is mainly not integrity but whether it can maintain capital-allocation discipline under high valuation and high capital pressure. In January 2025 the U.S. added Zhipu and its subsidiaries to the Entity List, recorded in both the Federal Register document and Reuters; the company states in its prospectus that this has not yet had a material adverse effect on its business, because it does not build its own AI data centers but procures compute from Chinese cloud service providers, yet this remains an objectively existing and potentially escalating long-term geopolitical risk.

The strongest counterargument is simple: Zhipu may be an excellent technology company, but it is not a proven excellent commercial company; buying today, you are very likely not buying a business but buying expectations themselves. If over the next two or three years revenue keeps growing fast while operating cash flow stays significantly negative, receivables keep lengthening, cloud-platform gross margin fails to approach the level of excellent software companies, and the company still needs financing or dilution to sustain R&D, then today's high valuation is very fragile. For an investor focused on permanent loss of capital, the biggest bad scenario is not "the stock drops 30% short-term" but that the market one day re-recognizes that this is still a large-model company far from self-funding, so the valuation paradigm switches from "distant platform king" back to "cash-burning technical service provider."

Comparison with other opportunities. Compared with listed peers on the same track, Zhipu's valuation is the most aggressive; compared with a broad-based index, Zhipu's single-company execution risk, regulatory risk, and technical-substitution risk are all far higher than the index, and the current price gives you no extra safety cushion; compared with the risk-free return, Reuters reporting that day showed the U.S. 10-year Treasury yield already above 4.5%, meaning the market offers optional returns that require taking none of this single-tech-company risk. My view: buying it is not clearly better than buying an index, let alone clearly better than high-grade bonds / the risk-free rate. If my portfolio could hold only 5 assets, I would not give Zhipu a seat.

Investment Checklist

Item Conclusion Brief judgment
Can I understand this business Pass Can understand product and pricing, but long-term economics still unclear
Does it have durable, stable demand Pass AI demand very likely exists long-term
Does it have a durable moat Fail Technical lead exists, but commercial moat unproven
Does it have pricing power Fail Local improvement, insufficient to prove overall pricing power
Can it generate stable free cash flow Fail Still large negative cash flow at least through 2024
Is its return on capital excellent Fail ROE/ROIC currently not meaningful and negative
Is management trustworthy Uncertain Founder-led, fairly full disclosure, but capital allocation still to be proven
Is capital allocation rational Uncertain Most funds into R&D is reasonable, but the subsequent property acquisition needs watching
Is the balance sheet sound Uncertain Economic substance better than accounting basis, but still far from sound
Is valuation below intrinsic value Fail Clearly overvalued in all three of my scenarios
Is the margin of safety sufficient Fail None
Does long-term holding let me rest easy Fail This price today would not let me rest easy
Which key facts would make me sell Triggers sale if held Cash-flow deterioration, failed margin improvement, worsening dilution, weakening competitive position
Am I buying just because of price rise or emotion Highly alert Current valuation is easily emotion-driven

Final judgment

【Final Rating】 Avoid

【One-sentence investment thesis】 Zhipu may be an important large-model company, but at this stage it is still not a good business proven to produce free cash flow over the long term, while the current price is already priced for an extremely optimistic "future king."

【Core bull case】 The company is in the first tier of China's large-model track and, on the prospectus's basis, is China's largest independent large-model maker; revenue grew rapidly from 2022 to 2025, reaching RMB 724 million in 2025; cloud API/Agent commercialization shows signs of improvement, with API platform revenue rising to RMB 190 million and cloud gross margin back to 18.9%; the founding team holds shares and controls the company through concert-party action, with a relatively clear long-term orientation.

【Core bear case】 Free cash flow has not been established; operating cash flow was persistently negative and deteriorating from 2022 to 2024; 2025 R&D was about RMB 4.1 billion, far above RMB 724 million in revenue; industry competition is extremely intense with fast price and technical iteration; the current P/S is about 554.55x, with almost no margin of safety.

【Key assumptions】 If someone buys today, they are essentially assuming that Zhipu will maintain extremely high revenue growth over the next decade; that the MaaS/Agent platform's gross margin and cash flow will keep improving; that the commercial moat will be strong enough to fend off big-platform players and low-cost open-source models; and that valuation will not revert substantially to the industry norm. If even two or three of these fail to materialize, this investment is prone to failure.

【Fair Buy Price】 Based on my conservative, neutral, and optimistic valuation scenarios, only at HK$40–80 and while seeing operating cash flow clearly turn positive does it approach the "worth re-studying" zone. This range is not a forecast but an expression of the minimum requirement for a "margin of safety."

【Target holding period】 If the fundamentals prove themselves in the future, the holding period can of course exceed 10 years; but at the current price and current commercial maturity, my advice is not "buy and hold long-term" but "do not participate, keep tracking."

【Expected annualized return】 Starting from the current price, my subjective ranges are: the conservative scenario is significantly negative, the neutral scenario is very likely negative, and even the optimistic scenario may not cover the valuation risk. In other words, the return distribution at the current price is not symmetric; downside risk far exceeds upside odds.

【Maximum loss risk】 If industry competition causes the valuation logic to switch from "future platform hegemon" back to "cash-burning AI service provider," compounded by cash flow that keeps failing to turn positive, a drawdown on the order of 70%–90% is not unimaginable. The biggest risk is not short-term volatility but buying at a price that requires extreme success to justify itself.

【Tracking metrics】 If I keep tracking, the metrics I weigh most are: revenue growth; the share of cloud API/Agent revenue; cloud gross margin and blended gross margin; operating cash flow; capex and compute-procurement costs; days sales outstanding; growth in paying developers and paying users; concentration of top-ten customers/suppliers; equity-incentive dilution; and whether further non-core asset acquisitions occur.

【Signals that trigger re-evaluation】 If the following facts appear in the future, I will re-evaluate and possibly raise my view: operating cash flow turns positive for several consecutive periods; cloud gross margin keeps improving and stabilizes at a healthy level; large customers and the developer ecosystem form significant switching costs; the company sustains high-intensity R&D without relying on continuous financing. Conversely, if revenue keeps growing but cash flow keeps deteriorating, receivables lengthen markedly, margin recovery fails, and dilution keeps expanding, I will be even more certain of the "Avoid" judgment.

【Final recommendation】 The calm conclusion is simple: this is not a stock you "should buy just because you're bullish on AI." Viewed through a long-term business-owner lens, it currently looks more like a high-odds but extremely-high-valuation long-dated option than a business already producing steady cash. For long-term value investors who put margin of safety first, my advice is: do not buy, watch patiently, and focus attention on the cash-flow inflection point and on the period after valuation reverts.

Open questions and limitations: The core sources I could directly verify this time include the prospectus, the 2025 results announcement, the company's official 2025 results charts, HKEX filings, and Reuters and U.S. official documents; but the complete 2025 cash flow statement and some finer customer-concentration / segment cash-flow details were not fully obtained from the directly verifiable sources this time, so I deliberately treat the precise value of 2025 Owner Earnings conservatively and explicitly mark it as "unknown / needs additional information."

This report is based on public information and does not constitute investment advice. Markets carry risk; invest with caution.

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Hunting ten-year five-baggers among great growth stocks — pressing the upside question: "Can it get much bigger?"

Baillie Framework · Ten Questions for Growth Investing — score profile: 44/100 total Ceiling 7/10 · Revenue 2x 7/10 · Next engine 4/10 · Moat 4/10 · Reinvention 4/10 · Management 6/10 · Customer need 5/10 · Unit economics 3/10 · 5x path 2/10 · Blind spot 2/10 0510 How high is its market ceiling? Is it enlarging an existing pie, or creating an entirely new market? — 7/10 Ceiling 7 Over the next five years, can its revenue at least double? Is the growth driven mainly by volume, price, or new businesses? — 7/10 Revenue 2x 7 Five years from now, what will take over as the next growth engine? Does this "second curve" exist today? — 4/10 Next engine 4 What is its core competitive advantage? Will this moat widen or narrow over the next three to five years? — 4/10 Moat 4 If its core business is disrupted, does it have the gene to reinvent itself? How does it treat mistakes and bad news? — 4/10 Reinvention 4 Do management (especially the founders) have a long-term horizon with interests deeply bound to the company? Are they willing to sacrifice current profit for five to ten years out? — 6/10 Management 6 If it disappeared tomorrow, how much would customers miss it? Is its growth model sustainable and free of reliance on harming society and regulation? — 5/10 Customer need 5 How are this business's unit economics (gross margin, incremental returns)? Do they improve or worsen at scale? Where does the money earned go? — 3/10 Unit economics 3 For it to rise fivefold in ten years, what conditions must hold simultaneously? Are they realistic? What expectations does today's share price imply? — 2/10 5x path 2 Why has the market not yet realized all this? Is it that it cannot understand, looks down on it, or cannot see far enough? What will become the "narrative inflection point"? — 2/10 Blind spot 2
  • How high is its market ceiling? Is it enlarging an existing pie, or creating an entirely new market?7/10

    The ceiling is very high, and closer to "creating a brand-new market," but that is exactly a double-edged sword: the higher the ceiling, the more today's price is prepaying for the most optimistic scenario in which "Zhipu ultimately dominates this new pie."

    First, the pie itself. The report cites Frost & Sullivan data: China's AI market grew from RMB 93.7 billion in 2022 to RMB 160.7 billion in 2024, and is expected to reach RMB 993 billion by 2030; within that, China's large-model market is expected to reach RMB 101.1 billion by 2030, a CAGR of about 63.5% over 2024–2030. This is a classic high-growth early-stage track, and long-term demand is not the problem. From this angle, general-purpose large models are indeed not fighting over an already-divided existing pie (replacing incumbent systems the way traditional ERP or databases do), but growing a "model-as-a-service" new market that did not exist before on top of generative AI. The report discloses that Zhipu's models have already empowered more than 8,000 institutional clients and cover about 80 million devices, and official results materials show its MaaS API platform's call volume grew about 400% over the past twelve months and ARR rose to about RMB 1.7 billion, all showing that demand is newly created rather than transferred from elsewhere.

    But "creating a new market" has two sides when tested against Baillie Gifford's ten-year-five-bagger bar. The upside: TAM is far from saturated, and the theoretical growth space is order-of-magnitude. The deadly side: a new market has no established profit-distribution pattern, and who dominates and how the profit pool concentrates are entirely undetermined today. The report puts it bluntly: the top five have a small revenue-share gap, about 9.4% for the leader, about 6.6% for Zhipu, and about 6.4%, 6.1%, 4.7% for the next few; this means the profit pool "has not become highly concentrated, but is still in a stage of multiple strong players coexisting and competing fast on price and performance." More critically, the real opponents are not fellow startups like SenseTime and MiniMax, but big-platform players that come with cloud, traffic, ecosystem, and customer relationships, and strong model providers like DeepSeek that disrupt pricing with low price and high performance. Zhipu's own 2025 blended gross margin slid from 56.3% to 41.0%, and verified financial data also confirm that "the track is getting bigger while unit prices are being pushed down by competition."

    Conclusion: on the ceiling dimension, Zhipu stands in a genuinely huge and brand-new market, which is the foundation of its story; but a "big market" does not equal "big returns." Whether Zhipu can become a major carver of this new pie has no answer today, while the current price has already priced in a yes.

    Jun 11, 2026
  • Over the next five years, can its revenue at least double? Is the growth driven mainly by volume, price, or new businesses?7/10

    Almost certainly it can double, and very likely more than double: this is one of Zhipu's few strengths beyond doubt. The real question is not "can it double" but "can unit economics turn positive while it doubles," and the latter is far harder than the former.

    First, the certainty of the growth itself. The report and verified financials agree: revenue went from RMB 57.4 million in 2022 to RMB 124.5 million in 2023, RMB 312.4 million in 2024, and RMB 724.3 million in 2025 (about +131.9% YoY), a three-year CAGR of about 133%. Starting from the still-small base of RMB 724 million, layered on the track's 60%+ industry CAGR, the bar to double revenue over the next five years (only about 15% annualized) is genuinely low; at Zhipu's current size and momentum, tripling to quintupling is within a reasonable range. Baillie Gifford would score this highly.

    Next, the drivers: Zhipu has all three of volume, price, and new business. Volume is the main engine: official materials show its MaaS platform's token call volume grew about 400% over the past twelve months, API/Agent revenue grew about 292.6% YoY, and cumulative enterprise users and developers reached about 4 million; the report separately discloses 240,000 paying Coding Plan developers and 400,000 paying Claw Plan and product users, a classic usage-driven ramp. Price also shows a rare positive signal: the report records an 83% API price increase in Q1 2026, a counter-trend hike in an industry generally locked in a price war. New business is the structural shift from on-premise deployment (RMB 534 million in 2025, 73.7%) to cloud API/Agent (RMB 190 million, 26.3%), where the cloud curve, closer to recurring revenue, is growing markedly faster.

    But the subtext of this Baillie Gifford question is "a quality doubling." Here comes the cold water: Zhipu's growth is "the more it grows, the more cash it burns," not "the more it grows, the more cash it produces." Verified data show 2025 R&D of about RMB 3.18 billion (note: the report body and table once recorded it as "about RMB 4.1 billion"; on the company's results-announcement basis it should be RMB 3.18 billion, +44.9% YoY), still more than four times the RMB 724 million revenue; blended gross margin over the same period fell from 56.3% to 41.0%. The report also makes clear that net operating cash flow deteriorated all the way from -RMB 68.2 million in 2022 to -RMB 2.2449 billion over 2022–2024. In other words, I am highly confident revenue will double, but in the foreseeable future it is more likely to be accompanied by losses and cash burn scaling up in step, rather than self-funding. It can double, but not a "good doubling," and this is the layer that most needs to be distinguished in Zhipu's growth narrative.

    Jun 11, 2026
  • Five years from now, what will take over as the next growth engine? Does this "second curve" exist today?4/10

    The second curve is already sprouting today, but it looks more like "an extension of the same main curve" (from selling models to selling Agents/platforms) than a truly independent new growth pole that can take over after the core business peaks; and neither curve has yet been proven to make money.

    Zhipu's current revenue consists of two parts: on-premise deployment (RMB 534 million in 2025, 73.7%, project-based, tied to the client's infrastructure and acceptance milestones) and cloud deployment (RMB 190 million, 26.3%, closer to API/Agent usage-based billing). If today's "main curve" is the larger but heavier, less repeatable on-premise deployment, then the one with the most second-curve character is the cloud MaaS/Agent platform: it grows fastest, with official materials showing cloud API/Agent revenue up about 292.6% YoY, MaaS platform ARR rising to about RMB 1.7 billion, and token call volume up about 400%. The report also pins its hopes here: "If Zhipu wants to widen its moat, it must prove... that the Agent/MaaS platform can form a scale network." This is a real, rapidly growing second leg.

    But strictly speaking, this is more a form-upgrade of the main business than a "second curve." A second curve in the Baillie Gifford sense is ideally a new growth source relatively orthogonal to the existing business, able to independently step up when the existing engine slows (like AWS for Amazon, or Services for Apple). Zhipu's cloud platform and on-premise deployment are both built on the same GLM model capability underneath, highly homologous on the demand, technology, and competition sides: what big-platform players and cheap open-source models hit at once is precisely this same capability. Once "pure model-capability leadership" is commoditized (the report explicitly warns that open-source models, low-cost inference, and domestic-chip solutions are all accelerating this process), both curves come under pressure together, rather than one shielding the other.

    A more realistic concern: it is too early to talk about a second curve taking over when even the first curve's profit model has not been proven. Verified financials show cloud gross margin, though rebounding sharply from 3.3% to 18.9%, is still far below the level of mature software companies; blended gross margin instead fell to 41.0%. Candidates that could become a true second curve are overseas markets (the report says the API/Agent platform already covers 218 countries and regions) and open-ecosystem plays like GLM-4.6, which is adapted to Cambricon and Moore Threads domestic chips; but these are still traffic and ecosystem positioning today, far from contributing meaningful, profitable, independent revenue. Conclusion: the seeds of a second curve are visible, but it is neither independent enough nor yet proven able to self-fund, and is far from a successor card already in hand.

    Jun 11, 2026
  • What is its core competitive advantage? Will this moat widen or narrow over the next three to five years?4/10

    The core advantage is "technology and first-mover status," but that is exactly the kind of moat most easily eroded by time; over the next three to five years, the technical-lead layer will very likely narrow as open-source and domestic chips spread, and whether it can widen the commercial moat (switching costs, scale network) in step is the unresolved deciding factor.

    First, the advantage does exist. The report records: Zhipu launched the GLM framework in 2021 and in 2022 open-sourced China's first ten-billion-parameter-scale model, GLM-130B, and is a front-rank player: by 2024 revenue it is China's largest independent large-model company and China's second-largest general-purpose large-model company, with a market share of about 6.6%; as of 2025 its API/Agent platform covers 218 countries and regions, and deep users of its services include "9 of the top 10 internet giants." This is not a model company that "nobody uses"; its technical brand and first-mover recognition are real assets.

    But what Baillie Gifford really asks is "will this moat widen or narrow over three to five years," and Zhipu's current moat components happen to be the least durable. After a line-by-line breakdown, the report's judgment is clear-eyed: on switching costs, after an enterprise does deep API integration, on-premise deployment, and industry customization there are indeed migration costs, but they are "far less solid than ERP, databases, or payment networks"; on pricing power, the 83% API price increase in Q1 2026 is a highlight, yet verified financials show cloud gross margin is still only 18.9% and blended gross margin instead fell to 41.0%, so it looks more like "a bargaining improvement from a local product upgrade" than solid pricing power; on cost advantage, the results chart claims "domestic hardware deployment cuts cost by 50% with no loss of performance," but the financials have not yet proven it has translated into an industry-leading margin.

    The narrowing pressure is structural. The report notes: open-source models, low-cost inference, and domestic-chip solutions are all advancing, and will commoditize "pure model-capability leadership" faster, and Zhipu itself is accelerating this: GLM-4.6 was open-sourced under the MIT license in September 2025 and adapted to Cambricon and Moore Threads domestic chips. Open-sourcing is an above-board play to grab ecosystem share, but its flip side is: when top-tier capability can be obtained for free and run on cheaper domestic compute, the scarcity of "the model itself" as a moat is diluted by its own hand. What could truly widen the moat are the two things the report says are still in progress: the Agent/MaaS platform forming a scale network effect, and platform revenue's gross margin and cash flow improving markedly with scale. If both are achieved, the moat upgrades from "technical leadership" to "platform lock-in"; if not, in three to five years it will be just a model service provider with decent technology but squeezed by open-source and big platforms and unable to raise prices. On current evidence, I assign a higher probability to "narrowing" than to "widening."

    Jun 11, 2026
  • If its core business is disrupted, does it have the gene to reinvent itself? How does it treat mistakes and bad news?4/10

    The gene to reinvent itself, in the narrow sense of "fast iteration and the courage to tear down and rebuild," Zhipu very likely has; and its attitude toward mistakes and bad news, judging by the quality of prospectus disclosure, is fairly candid. But be clear-eyed: this company has never truly gone through a test of "its core business being disrupted and facing a life-or-death crisis," so the so-called reinvention gene is for now more an inference than a verified fact.

    First, the Baillie Gifford supplementary premise of "self-reinvention." Large models are a field where the paradigm may shift every few months, and a company that survives in the top tier must, at its core, have the ability to keep overturning its own previous-generation products. Zhipu's evidence here is positive: from the 2021 GLM framework and the 2022 open-sourcing of GLM-130B to the September 2025 release and open-sourcing of GLM-4.6 with early adaptation to Cambricon and Moore Threads domestic chips, its technical cadence has never fallen behind; facing DeepSeek disrupting the industry with low price and high performance, and facing compute constraints from being added to the U.S. Entity List, it chose to proactively pivot to an open-source ecosystem and domestic-compute adaptation rather than cling to its old playbook. This flexibility of "change the playbook as soon as the environment changes" is an essential survival skill for a startup-type AI company, and Zhipu has it.

    But the true touchstone of the "reinvention gene" is "when the core business is disrupted," and Zhipu has not met that moment so far. All its fast iteration today is still adding to an upward growth curve; it has never gone through a crisis of its core business being completely overturned by rivals, forcing it to cut off a limb to survive and redefine the meaning of its existence. Compared with companies that truly "died once and came back to life" in a recent industry upheaval, Zhipu's resilience still rests largely at the inferred level of "it should have it." On a track with strong cycles and strong technical substitution, this stress-untested gene cannot be scored directly as a cemented advantage.

    Next, "how it treats mistakes and bad news." Here the report's assessment leans positive: in the prospectus the company "disclosed fairly fully the U.S. Entity List, the EAR, compute dependence, equity incentives, losses, and the no-dividend policy," and does not avoid discussing core risks. On major bad news like being added to the Entity List, the company disclosed it truthfully and explained its response logic (not building its own data centers, pivoting to procuring compute from domestic cloud service providers) rather than glossing over it. But the report also leaves a caution: so far capital allocation is hard to call excellent, and the post-listing acquisition of a persistently loss-making office-property target (total consideration up to about RMB 360.52 million) is a move that is "not necessarily wrong, but clearly does nothing to strengthen the AI moat," testing not integrity but whether management can maintain discipline under high valuation and high pressure. On balance: candidly facing bad news earns points; but "whether it can successfully reinvent after being disrupted" can only be an open question today, and no credit can be advanced on it.

    Jun 11, 2026
  • Do management (especially the founders) have a long-term horizon with interests deeply bound to the company? Are they willing to sacrifice current profit for five to ten years out?6/10

    On interest alignment and long-term vision, Zhipu clearly qualifies: the founding team holds control with real money, and the company has proven, through the concrete actions of "no dividend, pour all money back into R&D," that it is willing to sacrifice current profit for the distant future. What really deserves a discount is not "whether it is willing to sacrifice current profit for five to ten years out" but "whether the capital-allocation discipline of that sacrifice is rock-solid."

    First, interest alignment. The report discloses it concretely: Zhipu is a classic founder-team-led company, with Liu Debing, Tang Jie, Li Juanzi, Xu Bin, Zhang Peng and entities controlled by Liu Debing such as Beijing Lianpai, Huihui, and Zhideng forming a concert-party controlling-shareholder group; after the IPO, Liu Debing directly holds about 8.97%, Beijing Lianpai about 7.73%, Zhideng about 6.18%, and Tang Jie about 6.10%, with the other founders holding additional direct or platform stakes, and employee holding platforms totaling about 15.15%. This is not a structure where "professional managers pocket shareholder capital empty-handed"; both founders and employees have their personal wealth staked in the equity. Baillie Gifford would score this relatively highly.

    Next, long-term vision and "sacrificing current profit for the distant future." Here Zhipu is almost a textbook case of "daring to sacrifice the present": the company pays no dividend and states clearly it will not pay cash dividends for the foreseeable future; verified financials show 2025 R&D of about RMB 3.18 billion, more than four times the RMB 724 million revenue, willing to bear a RMB 4.718 billion statutory net loss to pour money into models and compute. Net IPO proceeds were about HK$4.1734 billion, of which 70% goes to general large-model R&D, 10% to the MaaS platform, 10% to ecosystem/strategic investment, and 10% to working capital, almost entirely toward the future rather than current returns. On the trait Baillie Gifford values most, "willing to sacrifice current profit for five to ten years out," Zhipu is not insufficient but rather "sacrifices" quite thoroughly.

    But the points to deduct are in the "quality" and "discipline" of capital allocation, not "willingness." The report gives a neutral-to-conservative assessment: first, large-scale losses and equity-incentive dilution are real shareholder costs; willingness to burn cash does not equal burning it efficiently, and there is no visible inflection today where these investments are turning into distributable cash flow. Second, and more noteworthy, after listing the company announced the acquisition of a target company that mainly holds office property and has been persistently loss-making for the past two years, for a total consideration of up to about RMB 360.52 million (explicitly not using IPO proceeds, paid with internal resources and bank financing), which the report judges as "not necessarily wrong, but clearly not the kind of capital-allocation move that immediately strengthens the AI moat." This is exactly what Baillie Gifford watches: a team that truly allocates capital on a ten-year scale would put every cent into reinforcing core competitiveness, rather than being distracted by optimizing asset structure. On balance: alignment and long-term orientation are clear pluses, but capital-allocation discipline is still to be verified, so this question is "full marks on willingness, execution pending."

    Jun 11, 2026
  • If it disappeared tomorrow, how much would customers miss it? Is its growth model sustainable and free of reliance on harming society and regulation?5/10

    "If it disappeared tomorrow, how much would customers miss it?" They would miss it, but it is not irreplaceable; that is exactly the problem: in a market surrounded by open-source models and big-platform players, and where Zhipu itself is open-sourcing, it is far from "indispensable." And the social and regulatory sustainability of its growth model has, running across it, an objectively existing and potentially escalating geopolitical risk (the U.S. Entity List), an exogenous constraint in its story that it cannot dismantle itself.

    First, "indispensability." Zhipu does have real, deep customer usage: the report discloses that its models have empowered more than 8,000 institutional clients and cover about 80 million devices, that deep users of its services include "9 of the top 10 internet giants," and that it has 240,000 paying Coding Plan developers and 400,000 paying Claw Plan and product users, with official materials showing cumulative enterprise users and developers of about 4 million. Enterprise clients that have done deep API integration, on-premise deployment, and industry customization do face migration friction, and these clients would genuinely miss it. But the intensity of "missing it" is constrained by the abundance of substitutes: the report is clear that this barrier is "far less solid than ERP, databases, or payment networks," while the market has strong low-price, high-performance models like DeepSeek, big-platform players with their own cloud and ecosystem, and plenty of open-source options. Ironically, Zhipu itself is reducing its own indispensability by hand: GLM-4.6 is open-sourced under the MIT license and adapted to Cambricon and Moore Threads domestic chips: when your top-tier capability can be downloaded for free and run on cheaper domestic compute, the "it must be you" quality is naturally diluted. So the honest answer is: if it disappeared, customers would be inconvenienced and would migrate, but they could find substitutes and business would not grind to a halt.

    Next, the second layer of this Baillie Gifford question: "is the growth model sustainable and free of reliance on harming society and regulation?" On this layer Zhipu is broadly healthy: its growth comes from selling AI capabilities to enterprises and developers to lift productivity, not from harming users, regulatory arbitrage, or negative social externalities, and through open-sourcing it has positive spillovers for the industry ecosystem. But there is one unavoidable hard constraint: in January 2025 the U.S. added Zhipu and its subsidiaries to the Entity List, recorded in both the Federal Register document and Reuters. The company states in its prospectus that this has not yet caused a material adverse effect (because it does not build its own data centers and procures compute from domestic cloud service providers), but the report also stresses that "this remains an objectively existing and potentially escalating long-term geopolitical risk." This means its "social/regulatory sustainability" is not entirely in its own hands: export controls, AI content compliance, data, and other regulatory variables are all exogenous gates on its growth path that could tighten at any time. On balance: customers would miss it but have substitutes, the growth model itself is legitimate and sustainable, but layered with a geopolitical constraint it cannot dismantle itself, Zhipu does not pass the double gate of "indispensable + sustainable" easily.

    Jun 11, 2026
  • How are this business's unit economics (gross margin, incremental returns)? Do they improve or worsen at scale? Where does the money earned go?3/10

    Unit economics are currently weak, and getting worse in direction: the signs of "better" at scale are only local (cloud gross margin rebounding, API price hikes), while overall gross margin is instead declining and incremental input far exceeds incremental output. The money earned (and the money raised) is almost entirely poured into R&D and compute, and has not yet turned into distributable cash flow. This is one of Zhipu's hardest weaknesses.

    First, gross margin and unit economics. Verified financials show 2025 blended gross margin of 41.0%, down 15.3 percentage points from 56.3% in 2024; the report further gives a longer trajectory: 54.6% (2022) → 64.6% (2023) → 56.3% (2024) → 41.0% (2025), i.e., two consecutive years of decline after the 2023 peak, "not yet forming a mature SaaS-style high margin overall." Structurally, the 73.7%-share on-premise deployment is project-based, tied to milestones and acceptance, more a solutions business than high-repeat subscription; the 26.3%-share cloud is more "subscription-like," but the price war and inference costs are heavy: cloud gross margin was once only 3.3% in 2024, rebounding to 18.9% in 2025, improving in direction but still far below excellent software companies in absolute level. This is a mixed picture of "local improvement, overall weakening," not a clean scale effect.

    Next, incremental returns (how much comes back per extra dollar invested). This is currently negative, with a stark gap. 2025 R&D was about RMB 3.18 billion (note: the report body and table once recorded it as "about RMB 4.1 billion"; on the results-announcement basis it should be RMB 3.18 billion, +44.9% YoY), more than four times the RMB 724 million revenue; the report says bluntly that this means the company "is still in the 'the more it grows, the more it must invest' stage, not the 'the more it grows, the more cash it produces' stage." On cash it is even more direct: the report records net operating cash flow deteriorating from -RMB 68.2 million in 2022 and -RMB 648 million in 2023 to -RMB 2.2449 billion in 2024; the report's conservative estimate of 2024 Owner Earnings is about -RMB 2.3 billion, not "very low" but significantly negative. The report also honestly marks that the complete 2025 cash flow statement was not obtained from its directly verifiable sources, so 2025 Owner Earnings is deliberately left "unknown" and not fabricated. But "R&D at four times revenue + persistent large negative historical operating cash flow" is enough to judge: today, every unit of scale expansion swallows more cash than it earns back.

    Finally, "where does the money earned go." The answer: there is basically no "money earned" to distribute; what is spent is the money raised, and almost all of it goes to reinvestment rather than returning to shareholders. The report discloses the company pays no dividend and will not pay cash dividends for the foreseeable future; of net IPO proceeds of about HK$4.1734 billion, 70% goes to R&D, 10% to the MaaS platform, 10% to ecosystem/strategic investment, and 10% to working capital; the prospectus also discloses that one core reason for the sharp rise in 2024 R&D was about RMB 1.241 billion more in compute service fees paid to third-party compute providers, and this business is "neither asset-light nor cheap, and highly dependent on an external compute ecosystem." On balance: current unit economics are weak, incremental returns are negative, and cash is all reinvested into the future; scaling currently amplifies losses, not profits. To score this question higher, one must first wait for hard evidence of cloud gross margin rising and stabilizing and of an inflection in operating cash flow, none of which has arrived today.

    Jun 11, 2026
  • For it to rise fivefold in ten years, what conditions must hold simultaneously? Are they realistic? What expectations does today's share price imply?2/10

    For it to rise another fivefold from today's price, a string of extremely optimistic conditions must hold "simultaneously," and the current price has already prepaid a good part of them as established facts, so the realism of rising fivefold again is very low, and today's price implies the most optimistic script of "the king of the next decade."

    First, lay out the implicit premise of this Baillie Gifford question: rising fivefold in ten years means multiple gears must mesh together: (1) revenue keeps an extremely high CAGR on an already RMB 724 million base (the report's optimistic scenario sets it at 60%); (2) year-10 Owner Earnings margin jumps from today's significantly negative to the 15%–20% level of a mature software company; (3) the commercial moat is strong enough to fend off big-platform players and low-cost open-source models, lifting cloud gross margin from 18.9% into a healthy range and holding it; (4) valuation multiples do not revert substantially to the industry norm. The report's judgment is direct: "if even two or three of these fail to materialize, this investment is prone to failure," and none of these four is easy, so having them all hold "simultaneously" is multiplying several low-probability events together.

    Next, "what expectations does today's share price imply?" This is the crux of the question, and where that string of conditions is nailed to the ground. The report ran a three-tier Owner Earnings discount based on the company's 2025 revenue, assuming 10-year revenue CAGR of 35%/45%/60%, year-10 Owner Earnings margin of 10%/15%/20%, and discount rate of 12%/11%/10%, arriving at equity value of roughly "conservative within RMB 2.2 billion, base within RMB 22.5 billion, optimistic within RMB 125 billion," equivalent to per-share magnitudes of about HK$5–10, HK$40–70, and HK$250–350. The problem is the market price is far above all three tiers: the report records a snapshot price of HK$1,040, market cap of about HK$463.68 billion, and a Reuters P/S of about 554.55x, already clearly above the upper edge of the report's most optimistic scenario (HK$250–350). And more extreme still: after the report's snapshot the share price kept surging; according to a June 7, 2026 Sina Finance report, Zhipu was up about 15x from its HK$116.2 IPO price, quoted at about HK$1,421 that day, touched nearly HK$1,993 intraday, and its market cap approached HK$900 billion on May 29 (against RMB 724 million revenue, the P/S has risen to the thousand-times order, higher than the report's snapshot of 554x). In other words, today's price prices in not just "the optimistic scenario coming true" but "even more optimistic than the optimistic scenario, and almost no mistakes within ten years."

    A cross-comparison makes the extremeness of the pricing even clearer: the report records SenseTime's P/S at about 13.56x as of mid-May 2026 and 4Paradigm's on the order of 3–4x, with Zhipu's P/S more than 40 times SenseTime's and on the order of a hundred times 4Paradigm's; even granting that Zhipu is "a purer large-model play with a stronger story," the report judges this is no longer an "excellent-company premium" but more like a "prepaid price for a distant winner-take-all."

    Conclusion: the string of conditions needed for a five-bagger in ten years each requires extreme success on its own, and multiplied together the realism is very low; yet the current price not only leaves no safety cushion for "the conditions falling through" but prices in the most optimistic script in advance. The report's "worth re-studying" range is HK$40–80 with operating cash flow clearly turning positive, and the order-of-magnitude gap between that and the current price is itself the plainest footnote to "today's share price implies expectations that are too high."

    Jun 11, 2026
  • Why has the market not yet realized all this? Is it that it cannot understand, looks down on it, or cannot see far enough? What will become the "narrative inflection point"?2/10

    This question must be asked in reverse for Zhipu: Baillie Gifford's classic "why has the market not yet realized this stock's greatness" presupposes "an undervalued, overlooked growth stock"; but Zhipu's situation is exactly the opposite: the market has not "failed to realize" but has already over-realized and priced in the most optimistic script in advance. So the honest answer is: what the market currently undervalues is not its potential but its risk; what has genuinely not been fully priced in is the fact that "it is still a cash-burning company far from self-funding."

    Why say the market is "running too hot" rather than "cannot understand / looks down on it / cannot see far"? The evidence is in the price itself. The report's snapshot shows a market price of HK$1,040 and a Reuters P/S of about 554.55x, already more than 40 times SenseTime's (about 13.56x) and on the order of a hundred times 4Paradigm's (about 3–4x); after the snapshot it surged further, and according to a June 7, 2026 Sina Finance report, Zhipu was up about 15x from its HK$116.2 IPO price, quoted at about HK$1,421 that day, touched nearly HK$1,993 intraday, and its market cap approached HK$900 billion on May 29. For a stock up more than tenfold in half a year with P/S charging to the thousand-times order, there is clearly no issue of "the market not realizing it is good." The market's pricing of the "story" is ample and even excessive: it understands the track, respects the company, and sees far enough; what it systematically underestimates is the other side the report repeatedly stresses: free cash flow has not been established (operating cash flow deteriorated from -RMB 68.2 million to -RMB 2.2449 billion over 2022–2024), 2025 R&D of about RMB 3.18 billion far exceeds the RMB 724 million revenue, competition is extremely intense, and there is almost no margin of safety in valuation.

    So "what will become the narrative inflection point" (the most crucial supplementary premise of this question)? The inflection is not "the market one day suddenly discovers how good it is" but "the market one day rediscovers how fragile it is," with possible triggers including:

    First, the most concrete and nearest-term catalyst is the lock-up expiry. According to the aforementioned June 7 report, Zhipu faces a share unlock in July, with the lock-up expiring around July 8 and involving about 11.6% of shares, and early investors (Meituan, Alibaba, Tencent, Hillhouse, etc.) with paper gains over 15x have strong incentives to sell down. When very high paper gains meet a release of tradable float, it is the most realistic supply-demand inflection.

    Second, fundamental falsification. The report lays it out clearly: if revenue keeps growing fast but operating cash flow stays significantly negative, days sales outstanding keeps lengthening (already stretched from 23 days in 2022 to 112 days in H1 2025), cloud gross margin fails to approach the level of excellent software companies, and the company still needs financing or dilution to sustain R&D, then the valuation paradigm could "switch from 'distant platform king' back to 'cash-burning technical service provider.'" The report warns that this switch, compounded by cash flow that keeps failing to turn positive, makes a drawdown on the order of 70%–90% "not unimaginable."

    Third, exogenous shocks. An escalation of the U.S. Entity List, tightening of AI content/data regulation, or a rival like DeepSeek once again resetting industry pricing with low price and high performance could all become triggers for a sentiment reversal.

    On balance: applying this Baillie Gifford question honestly to Zhipu, the answer is: the market does not "fail to understand how good it is" but "has not yet fully priced in its risk and valuation fragility"; today it looks more like what the report calls "a high-odds but extremely-high-valuation long-dated option," with downside risk far greater than upside odds. For an investor whose primary concern is permanent loss of capital, this is precisely the kind of "information edge" to avoid, not to bottom-fish.

    Jun 11, 2026
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